Alright, so let me explain, apparently, during either the 2010 Joe Hawley disappearance, or the beginning of the 2011 Hiatus, Joe Hawley had been "mysteriously" replaced.. with a CLONE. The original post that covered this has since been removed, but I still have some fond paragraphs of it. It goes like this: "apparently at some point during the good & evil tour, ross and joe had had a fight, what this fight was about and when it happened have remained a mystery, but apparently, joe feeling like he did not relate to the band anymore, left tally hall tried to find a similar guitarist to replace joe, and eventually found one; they were not sure what to call him, as jlh had not approved, since they hadn't seen him since the fight.